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Thursday, November 8th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: first blues tune!

I've nearly learned first position well enough to play the lead for "Drinkin Wine (spo-dee-oh-dee)"! Was able to make my way through it with a little confusion, it will sound great in the near future...

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Monday, October 29th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: my first lesson

I had my first cello lesson today. Teacher was intrigued in the cello and interested in helping me with technique. Said it would be a challenge as a lot of his teaching techniques are specific to cello geometry, which differs in key ways from that of the tin-can cello.

Advice for left hand is learning first position, with scales and Suzuki tunes. Thumb position is key, the thumb should be in back of the neck or even on the outside of the neck. Right hand, my fingers should cradle the frog. The angle of bow hair to string is different than when playing violin, the bow hair is facing the floor, so angled away from you. (These two bits of advice are by themselves worth the cost of the lesson.) We tried playing Humorèsque together. Vibrato was mentioned.

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Sunday, October 21st, 2018

🦋 Tryptich with Celliphant #tincancello

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Saturday, October 20th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: setup complete

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I mean I'm sure I'll be doing bits of setup here and there for months. But for all intents and purposes. Here's what it sounds like... pardon the atrocious playing :), I've just now contacted a local cello teacher!



It's funny, because my original estimate for best-case when I might finish the cello was "end of September". Not bad considering! This whole project has taken like 4 months from conception to execution.

Update from Sunday morning: wow! The instrument stayed nearly in tune overnight! First time that has happened. A couple of things to be done this morning: I forgot to put parchment on the bridge for the A and D strings; I want to re-drill the string holes in the pegs; some of the pegs need a little more peg dope. I ordered fine tuners.

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Wednesday, October 17th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: setup underway at last!

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I've got strings on my tin-can cello! It's nearly an instrument. Remaining steps:

  1. Finalize the grooves in the nut: I'll do this one string at a time -- mark the groove, take the string off, file the groove out, put the string back on. This will also be an opportunity to put peg dope on the pegs.
  2. Bring the strings up to pitch and finalize the string heights at the bridge.
  3. Finish carving the bridge in relief and chamfer.
Pretty sure that's it. At this point, I can play an open string and hear it ring. Sounds nice!

Update -- I have done more work on the nut and bridge. At this point I can play the instrument and finger notes. I think the strings are too high (except for the A string, which might be too low), going to check with Mo Menzel for setup advice. I hope I did not take too much material off the treble side of the bridge.

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Sunday, October 14th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: bridge location

Mike pointed out to me an issue with the design of the tin-can cello, one which had previously been called out on a Maestronet thread -- the bridge is in contact with the soundboard near the outside of its radius rather than near the center, which is more resonant. The tone will be bright and lacking in bass, which is pretty key to a cello's tone...

So, well, ideas for a future tin-can cello variation I guess. I'm pretty committed to having the bridge near the top of the soundboard, based on the length and angle of the neck; a big change would mean starting pretty much from scratch. In addition, there's a mechanical reason for keeping the bridge high: the bow stroke needs to be clear of the washtub.

Update: After setting up, the tone seems to be just fine, plenty of bass.

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🦋 Tin-can Cello: carving the nut

I will not carve the nut until after the glue dries and cures overnight. Instead for now I want to describe the process I'm anticipating that I'll follow.

Here is a rough sketch of how the nut needs to be cut away:

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steps:

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🦋 Tin-can Cello: gluing up the nut...

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So I'm pretty impatient, which is not a particularly good quality when it comes to woodworking; even less so when it comes to luthery. (Well ntm, just in general.) Most every wood project I've ever worked on has had issues in the glue-up. Well now I'm using hide glue rather than wood glue, which means I get a second chance!

After a couple of abortive attempts yesterday I got the nut glued in place; but when I looked at it this morning I saw that the way I had clamped it had not held it in place abutting the fingerboard, and there was a gap. Since the glue is hide glue, it was pretty quick work to break the joint apart. Now it is glued up and clamped in place again, with a brace holding it tight against the fingerboard...

I'm impatient to start shaping the nut but first I have to get the blank glued in place properly.

posted morning of October 14th, 2018: 2 responses

Friday, October 12th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: step back from setup -- a new nut first

Mike came over this evening and helped me with starting setup of my tin-can cello. But it quickly became apparent that the nut that's on the cello now (taken from the same salvage cello that the fingerboard came from) is not going to work. The action is too low, for one thing, and it turns out my lateral peg-box is going to require a special shape of nut, to keep the C string in place. I am going to carve it out of a block of cocobolo (which is what I have on hand, I think it will work in place of ebony), taking the tutorial Making a Violin Nut, by Matthew Noykos, as my point of departure.

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Thursday, September 27th, 2018

🦋 Tin-can Cello: eagerly awaiting setup

So I'm going over to Derek's shop on Sunday, to see if I can use his fifth-string peghole taper on my cello... If not I'll bite the bullet and buy a taper from StewMac -- I have a hunch that it will not, and I'll have to. (Update, bought a taper from eBay. Setup is not going to happen for another 3 to 6 weeks.) I made a couple of minor tweaks to the body this evening, bolting on a block that was loose and fixing the forward brace in place with a screw, and I closed the back. I put thick masking tape on the bucket where the tail spike emerges, to mask any rough edges that might wear at the tailcord.

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